Trust and Internet Identity Meeting Europe
2013 - 2020: Workshops and Unconference

Federation 2.0 & Monitor Identity Frameworks to securize Identity Federations from Federator Operator side

(Tom Barton, Marco Malavolti)

A REFEDS WG is developing strategies that R&E federations should pursue over the next 10-15 years. Help them! Strategic planning for federation 2.0

Basic framing: There was a work for over a year. Should we bump up into this problem or do it the proper way? How much external/internal drivers are there. What is the agenda? Strategies to be best positioned?

What is wrong / right what we are doing now?

Plot of the session

What would you say where we are now on this plot? A: Fairly autonomous, not too many bodies are restraining what we can do. Dot location is basically our current state.

Within that you have some communities that have access to resources. They are reasonably good at getting funding and they are reasonably good at setting their own agenda. What they do is they are organized globally. SKA (square kilometer amount) effort, they are managing to get the money for the devices in Australia and South Africa, but the actual science experience of very often very small groups, which are relatively easy to organize, but if you have a really big effort with lots of small communities and if you go to other arias it where they have more money, it is a rich …

We are trying to think about academy. We like the fact that we share a common mission across a lot of organizations.

The trust framework maybe. We could create some rules of behaviour or some other rules. Some contract to trust each other this way.

Enterprise way of looking: Many institutions are settling for stuff that is more directional business-like solutions).

Our objective could be (arrow in plot) adapting more cloud and enterprise solutions.

Very directive governments make a very large amount of money available for things.

The encouragement to take business from private companies.

Federation might be more needed than ever because more is moved to digital. To access libraries resources and books on universities etc. electronically becomes critical since all of it becomes more digital. University/Academy is becoming more digital than ever imagined.

Federation model works pretty well considering that 75% of federations do not have fundings or no significant funding, but they are delivering value.

Q What is success function of federation?

It is what becomes positive. Try to avoid duplication of efforts. Federations should be more intelligent,. The problem is that we have no ability to show how many transactions we are dealing with. It makes harder for us to proof how we are handling the stuff. People don’t value things they cannot see. We need to show the value to better secure the funding. We are not seeing any metrics.

We need to show the numbers.

In the Netherlands, there is a proxy that counts transactions, and that is good to ensure fundings because you can prove how many transactions are you handling. We need to be good at expressing our value.

We need to ensure good quality for academy. Most of us depend on national governments to get the money to work. We do not want paywalls in science. We want our institutions to pay for us because we are scientists. We have to overcome the “don’t give me any paywall” problems. It is better to have some degree of self-funding.

Q: Why do we have an abundance of identities? It is good to know what value is important to people to have it provided. Q: How do you make money and still support? We need business modeling skills. A: You cannot take the money from EU and then try to earn money with the same project.

Two-factor authentication in a way of piracy protection…

We have an asymmetric point of view on different topics. If you look for example at wifi operation in any institution. They are probably thinking I don’t want that because it is just an unneeded security issue/risk/problem. Why would I need someone on my network? And there is another point of view for people that think access to free wifi everywhere they go is good. Connectivity is however real problem and it would solve a problem when people are in roaming for example.